We’re finally getting our act together to bring back ‘9 Beats’, which is meant to be a column where arty set shares with us nine things that make them tick. We did one a year ago on Yee I-Lann but never got around to continue this column. This time we’re pretty determine to stick to it and will have a great line up in the weeks to come. First up is PopWire editor Grace Chin :) – SS
1. Playing Masak-Masak
I like to experiment in the kitchen. This is what I had for lunch: Capati with shredded pumpkin, chopped garlic, basil & mushrooms, topped with lots of cheese and herbs.
A spoonful of this makes everything tastier
I’m also a big fan of this mindblowingly nomlicious Crispy Prawn Chilli.
2. Igor!
I don’t watch much TV but Restaurant Makeover (Asian Food Channel) is a favourite. Igor Shamraychuk (the Ukranian foreman on the reality show) is really fun to watch because he’s almost always tasked with the impossible — executing the designer’s vision on a limited budget. Haha! Quite kesian lah, but he always makes it work! I also think he is cute :P
3. True Blood
True Blood is ridiculously addictive. I’m loving the hodgepodge of characters, the biting, the Southern drawl, and a world where minorities (vampires, werewolves et al) accepted by society and represented even in politics. Then, there’s also bits of interspecies romance. Kinda like a wholesome Yasmin Ahmad fantasy, but faster-paced, bloodier, darker, and nastier!
4. Innocence
Probably the first South Korean film I cried to… secretly
Growing up is not easy, and I find staying childish (or, ‘childlike’) even harder. Sometimes I think I have forgottened how to laugh with abandon, and that is quite a sad thing to even think. I wonder if I’ve lost the playfulness and curiousity I had when I was a kid. But when I do try to be childlike, it feels forced.
Probably only film I’ve seen set in Mongolia, and the only film ever about ping pongs
Genuine childlikeness is even more difficult to capture on film. Children are not easy to direct, and good child actors are hard to come by because they either end up miming or playing adults. Am no film critic ya, but these are some of the films I think have the really good child actors: The Way Home, Mongolian Ping Pong and Flower In The Pocket.
5. Love and Language
I found myself getting all weepy recently at a concert featuring covers of famous French love songs. Although I didn’t know any French, Mouron’s rendition of Jacques Brel’s Dans Le Port d’Amsterdam at the French Art Festival was damn kao power. I know it is a damn cliche thing to say, but love is damn powerful la, and love songs (longing, sorrow, anger, despair, delight) is quite universal.
Je pense a toi by the blind Mali singers Amadou & Mariam also gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it. Don’t roll your eyes k… watch the video above… and then weep!
6. Remixes
I’m all for remixes and mashups, like this Inspector Gadget theme song by Greg Pattillo. Beatboxing on the flute — shiok or what?
Sentul machas doing the tung tung chiang
I also find remixed culture damn fascinating, like the Peranakan and Manglish. I need to read more history and travel more, but am quite broke la. But so many remixes happening right now in our backyard. Here’s a pic of the all-Indian lion dance troupe from SMK Bandar Baru Sentul who attempted the Banghra (I think) at last week’s #angkatrumah @ Urbanscapes.
Technology and pop culture mashups can also make damn a lot monies. Watch the above video featuring Kim Yeo-hee (“Applegirl002′) singing and playing Lady Gaga’s Poker Face with four iPhones. The talented 22 yr old has since secured a record deal after her viral success. V cool.
7. Wordplay
I’m slightly dyslexic, but I love words and word play. V v sexy, yes.
Do Not Skip Life (2009) from the series New Kid On The Block by Fabian Tan
I Get High (2009) frm the series Animal Ghetto by Fabian Tan
8. Vacays
Grass stains on my white shorts, salty lips after a dip in the sea, sweaty walkabouts and loads of junk food.
Sawah Sunrise Homestay in Ubud, Bali, 2010
I love roadtrips, daytrips, open spaces, real trees, and the sea.
9. Patterns
I like patterns.
When I’m out (which is not often), I try to walk or take the train. The view is so different from an elevated train track, or from the pasenger side of the car, and from street-level… Bagus juga tukar perspektif dari semasa ke semasa. Asyik online je, pandangan mcm tak cukup real.
I have loads of these. I probably need to sort through my hdisk to organise them by category.
But maybe I don’t have to connect the dots all the time. I like things to be a little cluttered.
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Grace Chin is the editor of PopWire, a blog-wire that picks up the the best bits of relevant news of the internets, by the internets, for the internets.
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awesome! ok i’ll look for some japan patterns for your home-based consumption, gracey
Love the patterns. I like them, but shudder away; anyone who embraces them (in my book) must be willing to accept life in all its colourful messiness. xx
fahmi & petra: thx guys! :D
eh cacat, grammar salah sana sini. dun shoot me :P
eh, so this is ART for ARTERI’S sake, is it?
ARTERI are some of the biggest self-contradictory hypocritical elitist wannabe artists/critics i’ve ever known.
i distinctly remember having a debate with ARTERI about why you would not feature THE SUGAR BOUTIQUE – a local artistic confectionery sculptor who makes the most beautiful cakes for a living…
but wait, i distinctly remember ARTERI saying, and i’ll quote you here:
“Not sure if we are able cover it (Sugar Boutique) given that we are a visual arts blog, not a food blog.”
LOLZ at ARTERI.
funny how you’ll happily post random photos of pizza and crispy prawn chilli for your cliquey handful to talk about and mull over in your “VISUAL ARTS BLOG,” and yet you so pompously overlook ACTUAL FOOD ARTISTS out there.
you really ought to be ashamed of yourself ARTERI. whether Mr or Ms, pull your heads out of your own arses and BE a Malaysian Art Appreciation blog, not just an artsy fartsy crony blog.
This type of behaviour brings very little value to anyone other than the few thousand people who visit this page – when you could well be showcasing new and original talent that exists beyond your own self-righteous world view of Malaysia’s, sorry, Kuala Lumpur’s laughable, crumbling art pool.
*i must say, this should bear no weight on Grace Chin or the content she has submitted here. i’m all for that and Grace is great. but by your own reckoning ARTERI, don’t you think it’s more suited to KLue?
By saying that SUGAR BOUTIQUE is NOT ART, you are opening doors to criticism of whether the above post can be interpreted as ART.
i truly believe it is art, but no less so than ANYTHING produced by Sugar Boutique. don’t you agree?
i do look forward to your enteraining retorts – i’ll be sure to share them with the masses on all Social Media Channels. thanks!
ooi bang, apa pasal gaduh-gaduh, nak mencabar je. bagilah kontek sikit, barulah ada hiburan.
http://zh-cn.facebook.com/arteri.art.life.culture/posts/407868159305
okla, better in context, makes ARTERI look even worse!
thanks for sharing the link Sugar is Sweet :D
Yeah stupid arteri, show us some beautiful tARTs!
Harr.. why so angry that there is curating in Arteri,(which im thankful for, given the amount of crap out there)
I have no doubt some will call sugar boutique’s cakes art, and I might even agree. But i will also say it is pretty mediocre art, I mean, no offence, cos Sugar boutique seems like a nice bakery and Soraya seems lovely(and hot), however nothing the cakes are nothing new, nothing Ive not seen in a normal bakery.
Im glad I was spared the mediocrity that i get going to Malaysian galleries already, plus, I think with the amount of bitchiness in Arteri, the rejection by Arteri to feature Sugar boutique did them a huge favour, curating in content maybe, but comments, free for all., ya know?
But there maybe should be a guideline to Arteri’s submission/omission process too, since there are definitely some editorial restrictions, or is it completely arbitrary and left to the Editors Godly power which is completely fine but should be explicitly stated.
allow me to contribute my thoughts.
Im a struggling artist and have been at it for 15 years, its no easy.
I really really think that Art is no piece of cake.
ginger, i am so glad to hear that the mediocre cakes that i make (SEE LINK TO CONFIRM MEDIOCRITY) can now be found in normal bakeries. what an incredible relief!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=190963&id=19020996906
Anyway, as always I would rather be spared the inane tedious details of what is turning out to be yet another hackneyed pretentious self-important “but is it art?” debate.
Sugar Boutique cakes are not art.
They are just mediocre cakes.
Within 24 hours of consumption they end up in the toilet.
SO Sugar Boutique cakes are quite literally a form of undigested crap as is the rest of this ridiculous argument.
maybe we should hold an event whereby the KL ‘art set’ get a bunch of sugary materials and are challenged to create an art cake. i’d love to see the level of mediocrity in the results.
but most of all i’d love to eat munkao’s marzipan cock.
hey i just went to that link those cakes look really good!
a lot of time, effort and skill must have went into making them. more than can be said for the ‘curation’ of this post.
so, what makes this post art and 3D sculpted cakes not? there’s a good discussion to be had right there.
Soraya. My mistake, you are very talented and dedicated and am miles away from the normal bakery in Malaysia. I sincerely apologize for my casual remark.
I guess what I meant is that by just googling “arty cakes”, I can also see alot of examples that are as wonderful/better than your cakes.
Your cakes are really nice, but you know, this is the internet.
http://www.google.com.my/images?q=arty%20cakes&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Wow! Im completely floured by the details on those SugarBoutique cakes!
GUYS! Chill la!
Okay, look. Arteri, and the other geng fighting. There is this game on facebook called “Baking Life” I suggest you all fight it out there.
add me as neighbour.
Ciaoz
chica,
i’m totally getting a cake out of it.
Johnny you clearly have issues with us or me when I decide to not entertain you on facebook.
Obviously you have taken the issue very personally which is a reflection of inability understand what are the right channels to market whichever product you are trying to promote.
I have mentioned to you before that I feel that ARTERI is not the right channel to promote a cake company because our focus is on the visual art. And it does not make sense for you to badger us into writing a promotional copy/review for a cake company on facebook when as editors our priorities are towards profiling the visual art scene in Malaysia.
This does not mean we do not value or understand how culture writ large informs visual art practices, which is evidenced in Grace Chin’s 9 Beats. We have many articles that touch on cultural subjects from fashion to sexuality, sci-fi posters to aboriginal craft. So it is inaccurate of you to say that we are not open to cultural issues that inform contemporary practices in Malaysia.
My issue is having you kick up a fuss when we decide not to review a cake shop you are trying to market on our website.
Telling people this makes arteri look worse doesn’t make it so Johnny, u just keep telling yourself that. Realise Johnny, that arteri is not like some other magazines where they worship u and listen to every word u say just because you’re a foreigner. Over here, you are judged by your action, which is obnoxious, not by your skin color. Okay, can we get on with the programme?
Lee
yeah johnny, that’s the way we work it
money for nothing, get your cakes for free.
I guess Johnny is just not used to being an object of scone.
I think the problem with Arteri is that everyone knows each other… that’s a bad thing, no? since familiarity breads contempt
i can’t believe this argument is still going on in such a slanted manner.
first of all,
ME/SORAYA/SUGAR BOUTIQUE was the one TRYING to “market” products through arteri, not johnny. johnny was merely making some noise on my behalf AFTER he felt i had been unfairly discriminated against.
the reason i thought arteri would be a suitable place is very simple. i am from an arts background. i am NOT a housewife turned baker, or a pastry school graduate. i have a few artistic credentials to my name and a few exhbitions and awards under my belt too and up until now i always thought i had a fairly good grasp of what is considered a ‘visual art’ and what is not considered a ‘visual art’
since, MY dictionary of art lists sculpture as an accepted visual art, i decided to ask arteri to ‘curate’ my work since 90% of the techniques and TOOLS i use are sculptural.
as you can see, johnny has nothing to do with any of this… he only stepped in because he too was shocked that my work was not considered a visual art.
it never dawned on me that because my materials happen to edible i would be relegated to the domain of ‘food’ as opposed to art. that’s my fault. i should have been more hip to the ‘scene’.
somehow this has turned into a personal battle between arteri and johnny. johnny was just trying to help. any one of you would have made some noise if you felt your friend was being illogically discrimminated against due to “choice of material”
what choice of material has to do with anything is beyond me…time and time again i get the same comments from people “wow, these are like works of art”
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=190963&id=19020996906
but unfortunately the people who make those comments are just common, ignorant fools who haven’t a clue about what art really is. it’s a good thing that there are magazines out there like arteri striving to enlighten them.
you guys are absolutely right and have proven beyond all reasonable doubt that this is the wrong magazine for me to be featured in.
Sigh… I’ve already said before… We’re brothers from different mothers, machas, chillax ah.
Salam satu Malaysia
this is bad, i hope its not too late to start making amends…
can i extend my olive branch? butter late than never
Hey wanita.
I agree with you.
r u single?
Hi Mohd K,
I agree with you too…
Instead of all this online flirting, i think Arteri should organize mixers.
Hi Soraya,
my heart goes out to you, it’s really annoying when these people in ARTERI act as dough they are the know all and be all in art
Oh god. I hate to see this turn out the way it has, but … c’mon. To the commentor ‘Annoyed’ or Lee you ought to be ashamed of your xenophobic, diversity hating racist self.
You obviously know who Johnny is — so shame on whoever who told you he’s white and roped you into this personal mudslinging. WOW! I thought I’ve seen it all on Arteri but for a commentor to use RACE in an argument?
Why don’t we take cue from the pre-civil rights movement and put up a sign on all Malaysian media channels that says NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED TO COMMENT. WE DUN LIKE YOUS.
Talk to us when you’ve evolved lah, k? Ashamed to think for someone that supports such a progressive project like Arteri is no backward.
Talk to us when you have the intellect to put forward an argument that doesn’t take a jibe at “foreigners” before you accuse someone of using their race to exploit others’ sentiments.
…
And if it’s worth anything: Arteri’s editors have the prerogative to post whatever they want, whenever they want. But don’t be shocked at criticisms or opinions other then your own lah. Be prepared to be like a cat on clawing on steel wool-fortified, velvet-fucking-curtains and defend your editorial decision and you’ll only gain more respect.
Freedom of expression, opinion and the freedom to interpret contemporary art is what’s going to build Malaysia’s arts and cultural bank. The Internet is far too wide and far too great to be either myopic or for information gatekeepers to stop short of learning how to respond to instant comments and criticism.
I mean, it’s quite obvious there are loopholes in Arteri’s editing process. It’s really hard to accept that your final answer is that cake sculpture isn’t visual arts, lah. C’mon.
Oh yes, while I’m going on my annual bitch-spree on Arteri, Mr. Annoyed — this is not the age where editors have days or even months to decide to “publish” or whether to respond to letters-to editors. You really gotta think on your feet instead of telling readers to turn to foreigner-worshipping magazines.
Kisses,
Ying
this is hilarious! it’s ‘so’ Arteri. i win!
but it scone too far. poor Glacé Chin’s nice post has turned into a dumpling ground for another classic tARTERI fail.
i was only pudding my ten sens worth in to help a friend, and got my just desserts. my fault for being ‘different’ i guess.
although there’s little knead to argue over such trifles, i see from these re-tortes that when it comes to featuring cake, ARTERI obviously have the courage of their confections.
i could waffle on, but i think i Gâteaux go sweet talk some of those foreigner worshipping magazines instead.
thanks again for the predictable entertainment, it’s been crêpe fun messing with you guys.
in the meantime, i’ll go and re-read the ‘notes on talent time’ debate for future inspiration.
cheerio and toodlepip!
Dear Ying,
Thank you for your comments. We are open to criticism and this is an of course an open forum, but that doesn’t mean we have to agree with it.
In this instance, it is my personal opinion that cake sculpture is not something that I am interested in profiling and not something I would have defined as visual art. It is not an uncommon position to take. You might think otherwise, fair enough. In this case, we would welcome you to blog about it for us.
However, I think we all know that the issue isn’t that.
Best wishes,
Simon Soon
Hi Simon:
i’ve scanned through the comments only briefly, but:
“However, I think we all know that the issue isn’t that.”
er, i don’t. care to spell it out? thanks!
Altho’ this ‘cake or sculpture’ or ‘high art vs low art’ feud seems pretty divisive among all the frens here, i hope it does not mean to sow dissension among the ‘editors’ of this ‘blog’.
Also:
“In this instance, it is my personal opinion that cake sculpture is not something that I am interested in profiling and not something I would have defined as visual art.”
something similar to this discussion: roger ebert vis a vis videogames:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/04/video_games_can_never_be_art.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9y6MYDSAww
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/07/okay_kids_play_on_my_lawn.html
(wanna just add tht i ‘like’ this entry’s comments too)
Obviously the issue here is that people do not like gays.
gays ≠ likes cake.
Dear Simon,
Thanks for your response. I am, however, not privy to the ‘real issue’ at hand, other than the one I’ve referred to in my previous comment.
I would gladly accept the offer to blog for Arteri as I have always been a keen supporter of this project. Perhaps, as highlighted in one of the comments above, Arteri could feature a ‘high art vs low art’ (or in other words, prawn chili vs marzipan) roundtable.
I can almost see it, an interactive afternoon at Valentine Willie over coffee or sangria (whichever your poison), presenting arguments opposite ends of the spectrum.
I’m sure readers, those involved in the art scene or not, would care to read it.
Cheers,
Ying
Sounds like a super idea! We always wanna organise a debate but just never got around to it. It’s a shame really given that Malaysians are secretly such feisty creatures and would be fun to just create conversations about art over ‘prawn chili vs marzipan roundtable. Do we have any volunteer speakers?
Of course, we’re excited to hear that you’ll be happy to blog for us, which is something you’ve already done some time ago ;) As more bloggers participate in this little project, a more diverse range of opinions and ideas will surface, which can only stimulate further debates such as this :) And dosages of antagonism are probably something healthy for the usually suppliant and agreeable Malaysian public.
Dear Zedeck,
I did not mention that I do not consider cake sculpture as Art. What I said was that I did not think it fall into the definition of ‘visual art’. My understanding is that as a primarily visual art blog our main prerogative is to cover events in the visual art scene in Malaysia and Southeast Asia. Cakes as you know it involves other sensory experience, such as taste and maybe smell and belongs to a larger cultural arena which I do not have the expertise or background knowledge to comment on. So it is quite different from what your analogy of Robert Ebert’s commment on video game as art.
Hi Simon:
i saw circumstantial similarities between this discussion and ebert’s. both feature exclusionary opinions, however justified:
according to ebert’s personal opinion: videogames are not art
according to simon’s personal opinion: “cake sculpture … not something I would have defined as visual art”.
also, ebert himself eventually admits that he lacks “the expertise or background knowledge to comment” on the subject.
ultimately, though, guess i just wanted to share the links: it was a fairly important milestone in videogames’ entry into popular culture, and ultimately shows up the fact that the boundaries of artistic/cultural medium/genres are formed via shifting consensus.
hi everyone in this discussion thread:
i find it odd that a blogsite run by the “young”, and which often reiterates through its writings/discussions of its “young” perspectives -(presumably as opposed to “old” perspectives) – should take such a conservative/defensive approach to visual arts.
Visual arts have, especially in the past 20 years, been continuously expanding its realm to include other visualities and auralities. It is not uncommon to have architects, filmakers, urban planners, chefs, fashion designers,intellectuals/writers, web designers, dancers, musicians, etc. involved in exhibition making and discourse.
The questions aren’t even about the proverbial and intellectually passe/petty notions of :”is this visual art?” or “painting is dead”. Curators, writers, artists, etc have been engaged in exploring issues like:
* is art the stirring of human sensations – which include touch, smells, taste etc?
* what are the strategies of a post 9/11, post financial/banking meltdown of 2008 for art making?
* is not art often about the retrieval of unspeakabilities and marginal practices?
* does art take its models from museums/galleries/curators which is top down or from the “al-qaeda” model which is rhizomic, guerrilla-like with no centers?
* has art been subsumed in these 2 decades of neo-liberal enterprises?
* should it exist within safe realms of art spaces or within the public social spheres?
some examples of “food” within VISUAL art realms:
– the late alexander mcqueen’s chocolate show.
– whitney museum invited chef danny meyer to develop a food exhibition in a museum project.
– “documenta 07” invited chef ferran adria as a “star/flagship” artist.
– korean artist lee bul in the 1990s used fish and sequins for her installation.
– and many many more in the expansive and shifting tides of VISUAL arts:)
Hi,
Thanks for sharing. Zedeck, if you have hung around UiTM enough u would have heard the popular expression, ‘Art is subjective.’ So yes, my exlusionary view does not mean I don’t agree that the idea of the visual art doesn’t change. After all, this is common knowledge.
And yes, like what Hoy Cheong mentioned, i don’t really know why we keep debating about this issue when it’s clearly unproductive and we know that the positions we take are not ultimately hardline ones as each of us are trying to find and be inspired by critical agency in cultural productions.
Bottomline is: I don’t want to review about the products of a cake company because I don’t see how it can contribute to some of the issues surrounding contemporary art practices in a critical manner.
i offered to shoot a photo essay on soraya’s cake sculpting techniques. i even offered to make it more relevant to ARTERI in some way.
ultimately, i think the misinterpretation amongst my antagonism was that i was going to try and ‘sell a cake shop’ with another of my ‘inane marketing spiels,’ much to the disdain of Simon’s seemingly autocratic ARTERI decision-making.
my apologies for not making my intentions clearer from the start. however, the comedy value of the whole debacle is worthwhile.
Can i produce the debate for popradeeo.com? :)
eh…
are we not fucking done with this yet?
Hi all,
The only editor’s ‘godly’ power I will exercise is the right to moderate or delete racial comments or personal comments. NO MORE racial or personal comments or they will be deleted. Take your xenophobia and personal vendettas somewhere else. This is not right forum for you.
—
I think Soraya Putra’s cakes are beautiful. I see creativity, I see skill and I want to know more about the ideas + craft behind the making. When I saw them, I immediately thought of Richard Streitmatter-Tran and Aung Ko’s collaboration in the last Singapore Biennale ‘September Sweetness’. A huge sugar sculpture in the shape of a miniature pagoda, such as the kind you find all over Myanmar. http://universes-in-universe.org/magazine/articles/2008/chaw_ei_thein_rich_streitmatter_tran
I reacted as an artist. I’m a maker and I’m interested in anyone who makes things, with their hands, computer or whatever.
I’m one of the people who run Arteri, but I’m not ‘god’. I won’t be a gatekeeper or a kingmaker.
Yes, we need clearer submission guidelines, ‘about us’ and contact info. I am working on it. After this is clarified, perhaps when people approach us, they can do their research first and suggest ideas for features or content instead of asking us ‘can you cover this or that?’ So you make your own case for it. I hope this strategy moves us beyond the necessity for ‘gatekeeping’ at the editor’s level. It’s also lessens the intellectual workload of us currently involved in Arteri.
As for an ‘editorial policy’, we could probably never live up to it because we are so different. I am comfortable with dissent. In fact I feel we need more Arteri ‘editors’ to provide different points of view. However, who would seriously wish to join and help build this platform? I have extended invitations again and again (well here we go again: email me at info@arterimalaysia.com). Or are people only interested in using Arteri for coverage of their projects, plus a helping of entertaining comments once in a while?
About the forum: yeah, great idea. But instead of at Valentine Willie, it should be held at a non art space. We need more neutral ground for a real discussion to take place. For the same reason, it would be nice if so called ‘non-artists’ organized this forum.
So bottom-line, please watch this TED talk about creativity:
http://www.ted.com/talks/marian_bantjes_intricate_beauty_by_design.html
And bottomer than that bottom line: Soraya, I am certainly open to featuring you as a creative person on Arteri. Not to promote your business. But because you are creative (a CREATOR). As Marian the designer says in her TED talk: creativity is CROSS-POLLINATING.
chi too why you so anger
nais kempen guys!
Ars longa,
vita brevis,
occasio praeceps,
experimentum periculosum
(Art is long,
life is short,
opportunity fleeting,
experiment dangerous)
小和尚仅仅懂得依依哦哦念诵经书当真就能普度众生吗?
小和尚平时最好多做一点像扫地砍柴挑水煮饭等的劳动!
呵。
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haiyo, why so scary one here.
for what it’s worth:
johnny, when you say “eh, so this is ART for ARTERI’S sake, is it?”, i think you missed the first paragraph that clearly states this is a list about what makes Grace Chin tick, regardless of whether it’s art or not — which makes your comment sound very reactionary and suggests that you’re still acting from the earlier rejection on FB.
If you look at other items on Grace’s list, most of them aren’t what you’ll likely find in an exhibition of visual arts.
dear Grace,
Can you give me the contact for SMK Sentul Baru lion dance troupe
as i am looking for one to perform at a function in Oct 2010.
Do you know of similar school based troupe in the Port Dickso area?
Thanks a million
munkao’s comment takes the cake!
(da dum ceng)