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Natural: new paintings by Munkao and Saharil Hasrin Sanin
14 – 31 May 2009
2nd Floor,
Central Market Annexe,
Jalan Hang Kasturi,
Kuala Lumpur.
Open: Sunday to Thursday 11am to 8pm; Friday and Saturday 11am to 9.30pm
Can anything be truly natural? In life and in art? In Natural, two young Malaysian artists — Munkao and Saharil Hasrin Sanin — present a tongue-in-cheek exhibition that challenges the eye and psyche with their (un)naturalness. Images of the body are revealed, covered, grafted onto other species, and shown in various settings with symbolic vegetation and other tantalising visual puns. All works are acrylic on canvas and paper.
“This isn’t an art gallery! It’s an asylum!” says Fennie Chin as The Annexe Gallery’s Pang Khee Teik, Karen Hew and artist Munkao strike a pose.
Joe Lee, Fairuz Sharifuddin and Eema Abu Bakar who is a cook at Hoxes Bookstore and Café in Damansara Perdana.
Artist Yusof Gajah with Popiah Pictures new hire Grete Han Choo and her visiting friend from Austria Robert Buetof.
Palate Palette owners Sisiew and Su-Ann Wong taking a break from their restaurant to support their favourite artist Munkao, who is still remembered by some for his penis drawing at Palate Palette.
Design studio Bright Lights at Midnight art director Norman Teh thinks Munkao’s pig half man is too ugly even to look at.
The Annexe Gallery crowd.
Visual merchandiser and display artists Adrian Othman, Chai Yu Mei and Chai Suek Mei parties in Zouk.
Terlalu Banyak Masalah (Tak Cukup Masa) – Saharil Hasrin Sanin, 2009.
Donat Tak Ingat – Saharil Hasrin Sanin, 2009
Hikayat Dua Taman – Saharil Hasrin Sanin, 2009
Semua Orang Suka Jagung – Saharil Hasrin Sanin, 2009
The Edge (Options) writer Grace Chin and artist Saharil Hasrin Sanin.
LimKokWing University of Creative Technology student Adila Abdul Malik and BLAM’s new hire and guitarist, singer-songwriter of the now disbanded Lucy in the Loo Hana Abdul Aziz.
“Jangan Pandang Belakang!!” trying to warn videographer Fairuz Sulaiman not to look back.
“Alamak, sudah terlambat! Hantu Pocong telah berjaya menawannya.” “Too late”, Fairuz Sulaiman has been captured by the “Pocong” ghost that is said to be the soul of a dead person trapped in its shroud.
Astro’s wardrobe manager Zaihani Mohd Zain with fashion designer Radzuan Radziwill whose works include Siti Nurhaliza’s wedding gown.
Hazral Wahab and Sunny Liang.
Cameronian Arts Awards winner dancer Weijun giving the crowd at The Annexe Gallery a taste of his body.
“Forget about Yoga!” Dancer Weijun showing off his body-bending dance moves.
“Are those your gym mates Saharil?”, bakery The Loaf co-owner Jiro Suzuki with Hairie Otai, Saharil Hasrin Sanin and Raynold Chan.
Err…guys! This is an art exhibition opening, not Comedy Thursday!” Munkao and Saharil Hasrin Sanin.
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One of these “painters” is like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ijx-oe0o64
If it is for a public exhibition, please don’t f*** with paint if you are not going to make love to it.
On your own or with your blog, do whatev man. The clever poetry you have in your head doesn’t come out on canvas if you cannot command your brush. Those who can, are able to flip a cheap pun into a delightful liquid limerick.
Painting is a dying art. I want it dead actually for the betterment of society, but let it die in dignity. So please, anyone out there who wants to exhibit your art, please show it to your honest friends and a professional or two first before you turn yourself into a lol artist.
I’m angry from coming back exhibition after exhibition without hardly ever a hint of the tingles.
Too many people around the world dipping their dicks on the canvas, or doing gimmicky crap and fragging up the scene because they don’t have a freakin sense of where their artistic strenghts and weaknesses are.
On the other hand, there are painters like Shahril Nizam who was suppose to appear in this show but is too consumed with improving his work.
I’m pissed because I just saw those work at his place. They are ‘in progress’ in a way but Nizam’s work is lightyears from the twatty tryptics. Unfortunately, his humility locks him down while others bounce around on cheap praises and connections.
To be fair, having sunday paintings next to real ones did work to the chimerian stuff the way a fugly friend accentuate the beauty of their good looking BFF.
But hey, a wannabe painter has to start somewhere. The misfortune thus falls on Annexe. In cases like this, it’s the curator who should be cruxified for letting piss stain dribble onto a gallery’s wall. Either set higher standards for painters or hang the fugly stuff high above eye level.
dude, what’s with the tude?
daniel, why you so anger.
i like that word: twatty tryptics.
its like a band name!
Saharil – : D
I’m rediscovering my INFP -ness. Oh no Saharil, are you going to start a band now :P
i totally fucking agree with Daniel!
*please, i am not making any personal insults here, but-
CAN EVERYONE PLEASE STOP PAINTING FOR A WHILE, and see what happens? there are just too many paintings/painters in Malaysia. challenge yourselves and your ideas! don’t do paintings just because u think that will make u an artist!
for example: just one floor below this exhibition in Annex, u’ll find a shop dedicated to GRAFFITI works done on canvas for sale. huurah! now even the street artist thinks they need to validate their works on canvas.
even if its for economic reasons, please try to be a bit more creative. direct your street-urban energy to other forms of expression! think out of the box! PAINTINGS CANNOT BE THE ONLY ART FORM! it doesn’t fucking matter if u are using acrylic, pencil, oil, watercolor or spray cans! a painting is a painting is a painting….
what do u think a painting is?
DON’T FUCKING DO THAT ANYMORE!
don’t be so lazy.
drop your brush.
go shower.
get out your studio.
and see that our sense of (visual) perceptions have changed dramatically since the beginning of paintings!
and to all those who disagree, please think again before you paint.
Memang painting itu alasan ekonomik. Artis juga perlu cari makan. Kalau collector-collector di Malaysia tidak mau support jenis medium yang lain, mana kita mau cari funding untuk buat artwork yang canggih? Bukan-nya institusi di negara kita support juga. Yang bakat muda sezaman itu, satu-satunya platform dulu pun sudah tiada lagi. Persepsi painting (oil atau acrylic ataupun mixed media) adalah pendekatan seni yang lebih unggul daripada media yang lain masih kuat. Mungkin tiba masanya artis-artist sekalian sama-sama menukar fikiran industri kita ni?
Dalam masyarakat konsumeris ni, tak kan la orang hanya nak beli painting aje. tengok la aje dalam shopping mall2 yg canggih lagi besar dlm kota ni. Kita ingin nak beli apa aje. Tapi nak jual apa? tu ko pikir sendiri la. kamu ni semua kan org2 kreatif! tak kan selama ni hanya ingat painting aje…
everyone’s a critic eh?
you either like it or you don’t.
and what does too many painters in malaysia mean? that’s like saying there are too many painters in italy…our art community needs to grow, if it means having good or bad painters with good or bad ideas…
however, i do agree that if you’re going to call yourself an artist, make sure your work means more that just getting yourself exposure…
am i the only person here to defend the fact that painting is the most boring art form there?
everyone is a critic? u think? i don’t think there are enough critics here because everyone is too busy being nice and hoping to get’ exposure’ for themselves’. there are definitely not as much critics as painters. in fact, i think bitching and winning is surely more interesting as an art form than smearing paint.
go on then! defend your paintings!
and please don’t compare w italy – whose golden age of art was at least 200yrs ago. how old are u?
so your ‘either u like it or u don’t’ excuse is a weak argument. might as well not say anything. so much for discourse within the arts.
excuse me everybody..may i speak..this kind of problem (as stated above) is already ‘basi'(sorry)..masalah ini telah menjadi satu polemik seni yg dah berlarutan berpuluh tahun lamanya dalam seni malaysia. i’m not going to say that i’m agree to any opinion as stated above. We need to think critically how to approach this critical problem.in my opinion, arena seni Malaysia kini menghadapi krisis ilmu seni. ini adalah kerana 1. kita tiada satu pun discourse seni. 2. bersikap skeptikal ataupun easy to feel comfortable for what we have now. 3. ketidakfahaman mengenai perubahan ilmu seni itu sendiri. 4. tidak melihat bahawa seni itu mempunyai nilai intelektual…understanding is more important than skill. 5. kita tiada hala tuju,..ke manakah kita nak bawa seni?
permasalahan menghasilkan seni untuk cari makan seharusnya tidak timbul pada ketika ini. diakui memang ekonomi adalah satu keperluan, namun idea yg dihasilkan juga seharusnya sama nilainya dengan harga karya. ini bermakna artis perlu ada idea,tidak hanya bersandarkan kepada retorik dan skill semata-mata.
‘the fact that painting is the most boring art form there’juga dilihat sebagai permasalahan yg sepatutnya tidak harus timbul..ia juga sebahagian daripada art form. material atau apa pun bentuk seni itu bukanlah persoalan utama tetapi apa idea dan objektif yg nak dikatakan.
i agree that we cannot compare our art with any other state,if we want to improve our art scene.it’s not relevant i think..As i said before we need to build our own discourse..this is for a long term, in making art become alive n relevant again,to society and also to the world…thank you.
Sungguh idealis.
Bagaimana kita boleh menentukan bahwa suatu karya itu bagus tanpa menilai gaya dan teknik pelukis itu sendiri? Setiap pelukis memang bertanggungjawab terhadap karya seni yang dihasilkannya, baik bagus maupun buruk. Tetapi, mereka juga perlu diberikan kesempatan untuk menjelaskan diri masing-masing.
My two cents:
Benar there are different forms of art to explore and canvas is not the solution to everything.
benar juga that painting is actually … pretty much dead.
But for me… Jangan salah kan choice of medium yang si artist pilih untuk mengekspresi dirinya. Si artist boleh menggunakan apa sahaja untuk diolah menjadi art. Tapi bagi saya, content & thought process si artist harus padu sebelum memulakan karyanya.
Juga, dengan mencerca dan mengherdik si artist dengan kata kesat sahaja tanpa ide bermanfaat pun tiada faedahnya.
“kita tiada satu pun discourse seni” – bukan kah arteri ditubuhkan sebagai ruang discourse untuk semua?? Ambil kesempatan yang ada dan gunakan to its fullest. Tak usah berdalih.
peace.
I agree with Syakir that this polemic is stale. Vincent, the whole ‘painting is dead’ sentiment has come and gone. Painting is very much alive & exciting things are being done with painting – just not in Malaysia.
I’d much rather see a good painting than a crap installation.
Lydia ! You pulled the words directly out of my soul ! YES indeed! I would much rather see a painting (ANY painting) than some pieces of tissue paper strewn all over the floor with the title “figments of my mind”. HAHA !
I do agree painting is infact a dominant practise in our art industry. I do agree with its convenience of installation, buying and selling.
However, lets not overlook the fact that to give birth to a good painting is as critical, challenging and exhausting as any other art form. My view is, choose whatever art form you think that you are happy to express with on the long term basis and pursue it well.
“Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.” Ghandhi
“painting is really…pretty much dead”?ini juga satu isu yg menarik untuk dperkatakan.
Any form of art is never dead. seni tak pernah dan tidak seharusnya mati, so in painting..
saya faham ada segelintir artis or viewer or art lover yg bosan dengan painting..pada pengamatan saya this happen adalah kerana ketiadaan something which is new.something that anti-environment(for further info about anti environment plz read ‘Ucapan Nada Idea’, writing arwah ismail zain.)in making painting become anti environment again,we need to work in a wider system than what we have now. and the important think is,to talk about art itself. ilmu seni itu sendiri yang boleh menggerakkan kita untuk mencapai idea-idea. talk about theory, idea, interpretation and representation, rather than skill and surface things. for me, dgan cara ini kita dapat membentuk sekurang-kurangnya satu collection of art knowledge di malaysia seterusnya kita mampu mencapai penemuan-penemuan baru,sama ada dari segi form, meaning or anything that related to art.
to ‘nama saya tak penting’, let me explain about the discourse. discourse yg saya maksudkan adalah satu badan seni yang mampu berdiri untuk menjadi penggerak utama art scene di malaysia, dikepalai oleh intelektual2 seni yang ada and artists themselves. adakan forum or any aktiviti, documentation about malaysian art exhibition etc.saya lihat balai belum sampai ke tahap ini.
benar arteri ditubuhkan untuk art discourse and i’m really happy with that, thanks to arteri for the commitment in m’sia art scene. however, in my opinion, we need to look at this discourse seriously which i think is really important. documentation of the discourse is important. dan yg paling penting,kita memerlukan sikap keterbukaan dalam perbincangan kerana kita bukan mencari apa yg salah dan apa yg benar, kita mencari hala tuju.dan ke manakah hala tuju kita,sama2 kita fikirkan.
to ‘nama saya tak penting’ again, i agree with u that “the content and thought si artis harus padu sebelum memulakan karya”. ini sebaik-baiknya berlaku.
to TJ, persoalan yg anda timbulkan is interesting, about how to menentukan bahwa suatu karya itu bagus tanpa menilai gaya dan teknik pelukis itu sendiri. saya merasakan kita tidak harus melihat kepada surface semata-mata untuk menilai.viewer’s perception can be anything as perception dipengaruhi oleh dua faktor iaitu ilmu dan pengalaman. we shouldn’t look,but we should see. looking and seeing is different.seeing ataupun membaca sesuatu imej adalah bukan sama seperti membaca teks.the language of post modern art and modern art is different. gaya ataupun style hanyalah perantaraan antara artis(si penghasil) dan artwork (yg dihasilkan), yg penting apa objektif artis tersebut.
saya setuju bahawa artis perlu diberi kesempatan untuk menjelaskan karyanya. ini adalah kerana,bukan ‘seni untuk masyarakat’, tetapi artis untuk masyarakat, his thoughts,his interpretation, his idea. artwork hanyalah satu perwakilan sahaja. dan saya mencadangkan kita (artis,audien,pengkritik)supaya menghasilkan writing, bukan dengan tujuan untuk defend artwork dan hanya mengkritik, tetapi menyampaikan pemikiran, pandangan masing2 sebagai satu binaan ilmu.sekian.tq
It is a relief that such balanced, contemplative and well-thought replies can surface after such an obvious attempt at trolling (having been a forum moderator for several years, i’ve seen more than enough batu api cases).
Syakir, i am very much in agreement with the points you have brought up. Any form of art is never dead; movements come and go but art forms prevail.
Likewise, i greatly support Arteri as a platform for discourse on the arts, and its progression is a good sign of its growth and of the state of the arts.
I dont think the issue of “painting being the most boring artform there is” is in any way valid. I think its what artists are doing with a medium is what is boring.
Just like the lousy carpenter who blames his tools, its easy to blame the art-form and not take any responsibility for making boring work.
Hi syakir,
ya benar, I completely understand the issue of having badan seni sebagai tunggak atau pusat tumpuan bagi diskusi seni and everything else that is tied to it. But lets be realistic here, Malaysia open discourse on art? Sedangkan Bali Seni mempunyai 1001 masalah tentang management shj, saya rasa menubuhkan sebuah lagi badan bagi menjadi penggerak utama – tidak relevant.
pada pandangan saya, mengapa perlu menubuhkan sebuah badan atau institusi untuk memulakan diskusi? saya fikir tidak perlu. boleh juga tempat seperti Annexe? Galleri Commercial? atau Independent art space boleh menjadi tempat menjana discourse seperti yang dimaksudkan. I think we just need to have more organised talks etc. Hence, why most of the exhibitions i.e. Petronas, Annexe, Rimbun, Lost Generation dll tempat lagi mempunyai “Artist Talks” after the shows. To allow, the audience, inteleks, si artist, to come together and have a go at each other.
diskusi ini sudah membawa kepada a new direction.
Dokumentasi?
With the internet, this discussion that we are having now is currently being documented – live lagi. If anyone is interested enough to learn, they will find it.
I for one, would save this link and possibly cut & paste, print, xerox and sebarkan (ala zine). It may not be a perfect bind, but it is still documented. Dan tetap di kongsi sama.
sometimes i think you don’t need something big to start something, ia boleh sekecil kuman tapi berkesan.
well sebagai titik permulaan:
kalau semua nak discourse, ha apa yang nak dikatakan tentang pameran “Natural” ni.
I know how daniel and vincent feels.
Syakir??? atau yang lain2??? do you think their painting has dinamik yang luar biasa sampai balik termimpi2? atau hasilnya terlampau bosan dan perlu di pertingkatkan lagi????
back again..
well, i am agree with u ‘nama saya tak penting’.sememangnya balai seni mempunyai 1001 masalah.saya juga bersetuju memang gallery2 lain juga memberi banyak sumbangan dlm art scene.itu saya tak nafikan. cuma mungkin perlu sedikit anjakan paradigma dalam membawa art sedikit jauh ke depan. sampai bilakah kita nak melihat art berada pada tahap yg sama, kurang disapa.apa yang saya perkatakan hanyalah sebagai satu cadangan. sekiranya kalian tak bersetuju itu adalah hak masing2.
saya memuji tindakan anda menghasilkan art zine, that’s good effort.
apa yg telah saya perkatakan sebelum ni adalah feedback drpd apa yg diperkatakan oleh vincent. saya tidak cuba mengkritik sesiapa, namun pandangan setiap individu rasanya perlu diberi sedikit perhatian.
i can’t say anything about ‘Natural’ right now,sbab tiada writing yg dihasilkan oleh artis..saya tidak membuat penilaian hanya berdasarkan form,tapi saya ingin tahu apa yg si artis percaya yg mana dalam hidup kita mempunyai sistem kepercayaan.seni adalah suatu rungkaian fenomena persepsi seseorang..sekian.nice to talk to u ‘nama saya tak penting’
Excellent histrionics, Daniel and Vincent. Have you considered community theatre? If that isn’t your cup of tea, have you considered joining a knitting circle, where you can meet other middle-aged women?
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Hi Bull—t,
Thanks for the suggestion! Middle-aged women have so much to share besides their knitting skills…. wisdom for example.
I’ll let my pal Vince speak for himself but in my case, I’ll admit that the tone of my writing was a bit more dramatic than usual but I think I also followed my jabs with reasons which I felt were good and true.
Please reread my comment and see that I do my best to explain my tone. The point about me wanting painting to die might need more clarrification though. Please know that it does not come from hate or differences in taste.
In the decade I’ve lived in and around the art world, I’v been lucky enough to see thousands of paintings and other ‘objets d’art’ out in the open. I’ve also had the rare opportunity to wander into the storage sections of artist studio’s, art schools, museums, galleries, and collector’s home where thousands and thousands more ‘art’ pieces are hidden away like the bottom bit of the ice-berg. In my head, it feels like the closing scene from Indiana Jones’ Raider’s of Lost Ark(I think?): everything which is supposedly to be so precious, enlightening and powerful kept away collecting dust.
The mountaining of stuff cannot continue at this rate if we take into consideration something more important than our passion for art – the planet.
Thus my deep wish that future art will be something freer from the limitations of materiality and human’s endless desire for possession. I am being a bit of the drama here again but it’s like hoping that people will not have children unless they are prepared to be committed to raising it. My criticism was targeted at works which I am confident were not done by a committed painter and not fit for public display. If you disagree, please enlighten me with arguments. Even arguments laced with bites are arguments. You are simply asking Vincent and me to go off somewhere if something is not to our liking. This is similar in attitude of those who say that critical Malaysians should ‘go back to where they come from if they don’t like how things are’.
Given the limitation of any object based work of art, I really do think that community theatre will be a good path for the creative community. Where does one sign up? The other path that I am supportive of is the digital arts. Digital knowledge can be free to expand sans limit. There’s space even for trashy 4chan and Boxxy vides here.
Bulls–t, I am sure you can do more than just make pejorative references using middle-age women (are you a woman? are you subconsciously projecting a personal fear). If there’s a specific point that you disagree with, or a point you want me to expand beyond the form of the nugget, please specify it and we can discuss it while I knit. We will argue, but we will not fight. That is the beauty of cultural wars.
D3K
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saya peminat LimKokWing University of Creative Technology student Adila Abdul Malik!
ok la. discussions like this how to resist!
hahaha….
but before i start: yes, LYDIA. this arguement is already so stale. paintings HAVE left and come back again…but depends on where u are looking at/from. from the arguments above (and by the sheer amount of paintings we find in kL today), i think its UNDENIABLE that paintings have NEVER LEFT MALAYSIA. its time to rethink this.
ok.
well, one the bright side, at least people are talking about this subject:
“if paintings should leave malaysia for awhile – say at least 20yrs!”. this is my proposal for artists in malaysia. just try it.
no need to throw crap around at each other. and please keep all silly comments to urselves if you don’t have the necessary tools to argue your point on why u still cling on so this traditional art form.
what i am proposing is merely for artists in malaysia (trying to be specific for argument sake) to push themselves and their ideas into other forms of expressions. this will not hurt anyone, but it might change everything! or at least change the artists themselves. the way they approach an idea. who knows, your paintings might take a turn for the better if u change ur perception for awhile. who knows? maybe the market will eventually change if more ppl try to present new things.
we (the artists/producers) do not have to serve the market! in fact, we should be the ones dictating the market! tell them what you think is art!
more importantly: what do u think is art? that question is another line of arguemnent we’ll save for another day.
bottom line, dear painters: no need to be so defensive and protective of your paintings. go ahead and do them anyway, if painters really ‘must’ paint.
but
do u think that your idea (whatever it may be) is best translated/presented through the use of applying color pigments on flat surface?
if so. then by all means go and paint!
as proven, you can make alot of money by selling them, and u know it. enjoy urselves. no reasons for you guys to be bitter, u don’t have to question the art scene/system/issues..etc. you make painting at home. u hang on wall in gallery. u change them for money. u go home. u go holiday. u buy things. u continue to paint. hopefully next time u can sell for more. what’s the fuss? its a nice life, i admit. if only i can paint! :)
bitterness is for those who are looking for more in the malaysian art context and find none or very little. no visual challenges/stimuli. no one cares about petty little details like context and audience. everyone is too busy SEARCHING FOR THEIR SIGNATURE/STYLE to think about anything else. the rest of us, we make crappy non-paintings to prove to the painting-saturated-market that ‘art’ is not only about creating objects to sell/buy, but maybe – just maybe – the idea behind the work is more important. because material deteriorates over time, but ideas don’t!
oh well..love to chat and all, but i really must get back to my knitting….at least its not as messy – or cliche – as painting. hehe…
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“…..err…hold on, ladies….i’ll be right back. just gotta sort these painters out……”
Setiap situasi mempunyai konteks tersendiri – hegemoni, sama ada dalam dunia seni, sosial ataupun politik, tetap wujud, dan takkan berubah tak kira berapa kalinya anda menjerit: ‘aduhaiii, betapa pahitnya realitiku sebagai golongan minoriti…’
I can see your point, tentang artis2 yang it seems buat kerja tangan banyak (buah lukisan demi buah lukisan dalam neverending series I – infiniti), tapi kekurangan idea atau pendekatan yang baru. Nak panggil orang tu malas pun tak boleh, sedangkan penghasilan mereka biasanya jauh
melebihi what’s produced by so-called more conceptual artists.
Tapi jangan lupa ada pun artis konsepsual yang kitar semula idea2nya sehingga membosankan dan menimbulkan perasaan ‘oh no, not that again, i think i’ll stab myself if I see another ready-made/found objects installation’.
Aku suspek anda sebenarnya tak puas hati dengan the fact that pelukis catan lebih senang cari makan berbanding dengan anda. Hasutan supaya painters STOP PAINTING so that pasaran akan berubah menjadi lebih sesuai dan selaras dengan cara anda sendiri membuat kerja… aiyo. Tu bukan idealistik tu, tu malas, di samping tak ingin menanggung keberatan dan tanggungjawab untuk menjadikan your own artistic vision sebuah realiti.
Pandangan anda tentang kekontangan idea in our art scene memang aku setuju. Cadangan for Malaysian painting to be banished to siberia for 20 years – hohoho, melucukan, tapi akhirnya bunyi kosong saja… dunia takkan berubah untukmu sahaja, beb. C’mon, think of a better strategi lah – kan korang konsepsual sangat?
There’s a fine line between being an elitist snob and a downright twat.
The reason for discourse is so multiple parties can voice well-rounded, educated and objective opinions and at the same time, review and accept other opinions as, well, opinions.
But seems like even “artists”, here, have the tendency to pull the kind of nonsense that the average Malaysia Today commentator does, i.e:
“Hmm, Pakatan Rakyat may not save us.”
“BN RUNNING DOG! GO TO HELL! GO TO HELL!”
You know at this point, you “artists” might as well consider the possibility of forging a community, a futile effort. Man, you guys can’t even offer intelligent criticism without bitching like a bunch of spoiled 13-year-olds.
Shiiit, if I were an artist I wouldn’t want your support. What for? So I can be “validated”? No thanks.
All this talk about enriching the art scene here in Malaysia is pointless. All you “seniors” are scarying new blood away with that kind of petty talk. Blame the lack of an art scene on yourselves, not everyone else.
<3 kthnxbye <3
Oh by the way, I heard about these petty comments from someone who isn’t an artist. As if being misunderstood isn’t enough, you guys had create a nasty reputation for yourselves. Tak malu.
I’m actually very impressed with the background work in munkao’s stuff… the brushwork is amazing.
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1. painting is a classic medium, challenge lies on communicating through flat surface.
2. there’s something subtle about painting, there’s always the demarcation between the canvas and the observer, which to most modern artists, may become a barrier because it will always being perceived as ‘art’/’subject’ and nothing more than that.
3. painting can’t (mostly) translate time and space unlike videos, motion graphic, internet, installation. it is static, unfriendly, illiberal.
all those bad reasons are what made painting still relevant – depends on the artist – it is a medium so pure, that it devoted itself entirely to the ideology of the artist. and due to its inflexibility, it has the potential to raise many questions that have no answers.
though I have to agree that painting might be irrelevant for Malaysia where art appreciation is still weak among the people. artists need to go beyond flat surface to reach the audience here and now, in this case, to paint somehow seems like an elitist.
YO vincent L O L ..!!!! GRAFFITI IS GRAFFITI so WHATUPZZZ loco u got prob wth my studio n local Graff scene???
*why so serious wth what we doing on canvas etc
blablaBLA!! lol…???
we only COOL wth POLIS n DBKL! fr others we respect!!! My crew want fuck canvas aso cannot
mehh????? wahhhhh NEW LAW ka hahahahhahahaha WTF?? duit kopi mau tak:)
WTF wth ur Theory:-
“even the street artist thinks they need to validate their works on canvas”….
?????…
Hey!!!! WHO ARE U MR!! Theory?? WTF!:)
heheh uh are u Graffiti artist?????
We dont need prophet n leave us alone FBfreak!!
WE FROM DIFFERENT WORLD LAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
We never give shit wth ur prob blabla…so U better fuck ya own fine stuff cz we jst fuck graffiti …peace OUT
>+they+ T.L.G family<
apa yang kau merapu ni da. bahasa tunggang-langgang. kalau nak guna tanda tanya ‘?’ atau tanda seru ‘!’, guna sekali cukuplah! toksah over sangat.
hish, anak2 muda sekarang ni, dengan ‘bahasa SMS’ diorang! ini mesti dipengaruhi unsur2 kurang sihat dari muzik hiphop & budaya goth.
calm down everyone! have a doobie :D
btw. the world can always afford more arty ppl. it’s the deliquents and degenerates that piss on other people’s efforts (no matter how purile and inane the results may be) that we can do without.
But in all seriousness, those tryptics were pretty twatty
I think the paintings lack intellectual depth and display very little talent and originality in visual play. Generic paintings.
Furthermore, there is more to art than just pigment on canvas.
Hey dan the man i havent heard the revue like that for ages ,i like but hey some of us paint to pay the rent ,
“YO vincent L O L ..!!!! GRAFFITI IS GRAFFITI so WHATUPZZZ loco u got prob wth my studio n local Graff scene???
*why so serious wth what we doing on canvas etc
blablaBLA!! lol…???
we only COOL wth POLIS n DBKL! fr others we respect!!! My crew want fuck canvas aso cannot
mehh????? wahhhhh NEW LAW ka hahahahhahahaha WTF?? duit kopi mau tak:)
WTF wth ur Theory:-
“even the street artist thinks they need to validate their works on canvas”….
?????…
Hey!!!! WHO ARE U MR!! Theory?? WTF!:)
heheh uh are u Graffiti artist?????
We dont need prophet n leave us alone FBfreak!!
WE FROM DIFFERENT WORLD LAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
We never give shit wth ur prob blabla…so U better fuck ya own fine stuff cz we jst fuck graffiti …peace OUT
>+they+ T.L.G family<"
This is nothing to do with me. I DO NOT associate myself with this sort of things nor write in such manner. It is an act of a person with low self esteem and low morale who doesn’t even have the guts to sign off with his/her own identity…. just be who you are and don’t be such a poser.
THEY